Spokesman for custody group launches suit for defamation

A Report from the Courtroom at the Ken Wiebe-SWC Defamation Trial

 

News received from our activists present at the trial are as follows:

 

Among Fathers and Men's Rights Activists attending the trial were Members of Fathers-4-Justice Canada. This brief comes from Robert Robinson aka The Burnaby Batman

 

Several Fathers Activists are attending the trial in support of Ken Wiiebe.The trial is into its second week and all indications are that it might last another two weeks. The trial begins each morning at the Victoria Supreme court on Broughton and Courtney street at 10:00 am

Today was spent in examination of witness and cross examination of same. The first to be questioned was the official coordinator and research analyst of the report and its 'hate-list'. The author of the report, Madame Bouchard was also in attendance

 

Today's proceedings were quite normal and while not overly exciting was interesting nonetheless and was good practice for those who have not yet experienced a trial I was interesting for our activists to witness first hand the SWC government representatives uncanny ability to skirt the issues and pass the buck. The rest of the week will include more entering documents, testimony and such into evidence. The folowing week more documents will be introduced.

 

For people who reside in Victoria and surrounding areas as well as Vancouver Robert Robertson strongly encourages all to support Ken Wiebe in the cause ahd show solidarity for his efforts and initiative on behalf of all Canadian activists and fathers by lending support and attending the trial-if only for a day. He suggests that this might be the best opportunity to show the government of Canada and SWC that we are Dads. that we have rights and that we are unmoved by the persecution and bias and the hateful defamatory assault against us.

 

Robbert suggests that there is an added bonus in being able to have the opportunity to witness the superb skill and excellent legal performance of Ken's attorney, "Doug Christie" Apparently Mr Christie is giving the SWC defendents a really difficult time. With regard to Mr. Christie's performance today Robert believes that if it is any indication of things to come then SWC needs to watch out.

 

 Robert ends with this message: "That's it for now folks and once again here's your chance to make a difference, get out to the trial if you can and be sure to introduce yourself to Ken and lend him your support. This ones for all of us. Thanks Ken for making a difference" .

National Action Director - Fathers4Justice Canada

1-877-F4Justice - Ext.915

 

Many thanks Robbie !

 

The value of marriage

Spiting their pretty faces

The sexual value of the average (North) American woman

Extraits:

 

… marriage is … a state contract designed to prevent the state from being forced to provide for unproductive women and children.

… a man must be either a fool or a weakling to enter into such a contract, especially given that the traditional reason for doing so has been eliminated by societal devolution.

… career women are … shocked to hear of their lack of desirability to men … their comparatively high incomes mean that they are bringing something to the marriage table, in effect a form of modern dowry.

… the sexual value of the average (North) American woman works out to only $1,353.33 per annum.

… the problem faced by career women … is that while they do bring their modern dowry to the table … they bring little else, and money does not buy happiness.

However high their original sexual value … they are at a disadvantage with regards to other relationship aspects valued by men, such as providing children, child care and various household services.

 

… marriage is not love, most marriages in history have taken place for reasons other than love …

…. merely being in love and having a child or two is no reason to marry.

… putting a price on marriage might seem distasteful … it is an important consideration for any man contemplating the commitment.

… if you don't make a realistic assessment of marriage's value to you prior to entering into it, the probability is that a divorce court will be doing so for you on the other end.

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… marriage is … a state contract designed to prevent the state from being forced to provide for unproductive women and children.

That this is the true purpose underlying the marriage contract can be seen from the way the state has no interest in ascertaining whether the proper man's financial resources are tapped for child support.

Indeed, not even proving the complete impossibility of any relationship through DNA testing is enough to sever that state-enforced bond.

… a man must be either a fool or a weakling to enter into such a contract, especially given that the traditional reason for doing so has been eliminated by societal devolution.

The end of the dowry system meant that the primary motivation for marrying was sexual, but the Sexual Revolution has significantly lowered the sexual value of women by increasing the available supply.

One reason that career women are so shocked to hear of their lack of desirability to men is that their comparatively high incomes mean that they are bringing something to the marriage table, in effect a form of modern dowry.

But they tend to forget that in addition to their salaries one must assess their sexual values, which can be computed thanks to data collected on average American sexual practices which state that the average sexual encounter lasts 28 minutes and Americans average 58 such encounters per year.

Therefore, the sexual value of a woman can be computed according to the formula (P*(E/60)*(N*12), wherein P = price per hour, E = length of average sexual encounter in minutes and N = number of monthly encounters.

Assuming realistic maximums, this value can be expected to range between 0 and $1.67 million on an annual basis.

However, if one assumes that P for the average woman is one-third the overnight rate of a pretty, but non-elite 20-year-old call girl, the sexual value of the average (North) American woman works out to only $1,353.33 per annum.

So, the problem faced by career women, then, is that while they do bring their modern dowry to the table in the form of a salary and a health insurance package, they bring little else, and money does not buy happiness.

However high their original sexual value, their time commitments and job stresses tend to reduce it, while they are at a disadvantage with regards to other relationship aspects valued by men, such as providing children, child care and various household services.

But what of love, you ask? How can one put a price on love? One can't, but then, marriage is not love, most marriages in history have taken place for reasons other than love and some of history's most famous lovers have been unmarried.

And as post-Christian Europe increasingly demonstrates, merely being in love and having a child or two is no reason to marry.

While putting a price on marriage might seem distasteful to some, it is an important consideration for any man contemplating the commitment.

Because if you don't make a realistic assessment of marriage's value to you prior to entering into it, the probability is that a divorce court will be doing so for you on the other end.

 

 

Humour

Des membres d'une ligue féministe n'ont pas aimé le film porno qu'elles sont allé voir

Ma fille, mon ange, l'enfer du décor

 

La connerie a encore frappé le PLQ

Christine St-Pierre choquée par les propos d'un adéquiste

 

"Des centaines de milliards de dollars sont dépensés chaque année pour contrôler l'opinion publique."

Noam Chomsky, professeur et auteur américain

 

Taking Tea with the Enemy : The Bev and Rona Party 

 

 OUTRAGEOUS. We are betrayed Ladies and Gentlemen. Its all I can do to contain myself I am so mad about the Ministers tea party with the enemies of Men the family and the purveyors of false statistics for profit. I am not kidding in that if I have any say in this at all I am going to be urging mass defections from the Conservative party ranks by all of the Fathers and Men within the reach and influence of my network. We might as well just vote for the Green party as a protest vote-just to show the government that we actually do have some voter influence. One of my fellow activists told me just this morning that as far as he and his members are concerned they might as well just vote Liberal for all the difference it would make.I agree. Fathers and Men and Family right activists everywhere are beside themselves with anger at this atrocious behaviour by the Minister. Anyone who has attended former Mayor Jan Reimers seminars boosting the women's shelter industry must realize what a scam it all is. It absolutely sickens me to see these politicians lining up and selling their souls is to support the ever-popular and politically correct motherhood issues in order to get ahead. Its no wonder there is never ever any funding for fathers groups.

 

OUTRAGEOUS

Reminder: 550,000 male victims of domestic abuse and assault in 2005. But there are no shelters for men in Canada.And definitely no government funded ones.

 

I have these past few days told the Ottawa Centre Riding Association directly that I am not only not working for them this time round but I am going to try and urge the Fathers and men and their families to specifically avoid supporting the Conservatives in any election. I was about to attend a meeting there tomorrow but I have cancelled it in protest. I also told them I intend to work for another party-(probably Green) and that I am burning my CP membership card on the 6th May. I intend to do just that. I wish I could do it publicly in front of the media. It will not be easy for me to ever be proud of being a Conservative member again. I believe we need to organize a direct campaign of boycott of all donations to the Conservative party for a start. The party will never get another cent from me and I make that solemn promise today. The burning of my membership card will be very symbolic. My membership money and any spare donations I can manage will now go directly into the coffers of REAL WOMEN. It is a promise I vow to keep. I will be urging all Fathers activists in Canada to urge their members to do the same.

 

Clearly this Conservative Government does not represent us and intends only to continue the persecution of Fathers and their children though the courts and assist in the destruction of the family. We have seen no relief in the courts and no changes to the legal system that is wreaking so much destruction among our families and in our society. If this government can be 'conned' into the fraud of the "shelter industry then what more can they be 'conned' into? Clearly the "divorce industry" is one which appeals to them as well. if the Minster wanted to at least take a hard look at what this "shelter industry" is all about she need only look at the 11000 shelter beds in Ontario costing the taxpayer $174.00 a day per bed. Shelters all over the province run by numbered companies and with virtually no-one in them. And of course no-one is allowed to inspect the beds-or the shelters either. But politicians line up again to sell themselves and align their futures to the idea. Now that's about a Billion dollars of taxpayers money every three years going somewhere-just in Ontario. But no-one knows exactly to who. Who benefits? Who are they? What is the operating budget? Who gets paid what? How many people are on the payroll?

 

OUTRAGEOUS

Reminder: 6% of the Canadian Male Population abused by their female partners in 2005, But governments throw more money at the shelter industry just to enhance their political profile

 

So where will the tea party money be going? What shelters? Will Minister Oda actually get in to see them? or will she be taken on another specially prepared model shelter to illustrate the point? Yup. $174.00 a day-into a black hole and someone's pocket. In one Province. Hell we could send our real battered women in Ontario to the Chateau Laurier for that price. Nope. I see no difference anymore between this Conservative government and the Chrétien Liberals who once dismissed the Fathers Rights movement as a "half dozen men across the country with anger issues". The party we had so much hope for and had so much faith in has become our enemy. There is now no longer any doubt of that fact.

 

OUTRAGEOUS

Reminder: Police normally arrest the man in domestic violence incidents even if he is the victim and even if he called them in the first place.  He then finds himself in jail and facing sentencing in court. In most cases he is forced to sign a peace bond and thus becomes a statistic for male on female violence. In other words innocent men become criminals overnight. Pawns for an ideology. The very ideology that Bev Oda is supporting by taking tea with the enemy,

 

On a personal level I can hardly believe I trudged through the snow and ice in 2005-6 for this government to work towards its election. I feel like a complete fool and I really feel as if we have been 'dismissed and discarded' . Bev Odas office doesn't even bother to respond to requests to see her. I should have realized that something was up. . its time to show our strength in numbers at least and move to take our fight against this government in any way that we can. its time to stand up and work to get rid of this traitorous government. They have already done enough damage. I almost wish the Reform Party would come back and take control. They would not have insulted us like this never mind betrayed us. I am urging all of the contacts in my network to stand and fight this tyranny and get rid of this government once and for all.

 

In my current state of anger and as I usually do I am searching through history for something appropriate to say to end moments like this and I can't help but think that the speech by Oliver Cromwell in dissolving Britain's parliament in 1653 would be the most appropriate: "You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go ! " 

 

 It fits don't you think? Lets see them off.

 

OUTRAGEOUS

Reminder: " We don't have to treat men and women differently in this country."    Bev Oda-Minister of Canadian Heritage

 

 Jeremy Swanson

Fathers and Men's Rights Activist

 

 Many of our activists might feel uncomfortable by the message to the Conservative Government and I understand that completely. It is true that apart from our activism we all have varied political lives and stand-alone political issues on which we concentrate, But no matter which side of the political fence we stand in terms of party preference we cannot deny that we have been 'shafted' by the Conservative Government. The tea with Rona and Oda spend and shcmooze fest is nothing les than a bitter betrayal and a slap in the face in terms of our mission to secure our rights as Citizens which are constantly denied and abused. What Minister Oda is doing is giving credibility to the "shelter industry" which rakes millions of dollars from government and tax payers over the idea that there is massive abuse of women by men. The minister knows full well that the real domestic violence figures show that 57% of men abuse women and 43% of women abuse men. That is a lot closer that the massive 90% men against women claimed by the "industry". And even while she knows that truth there are still no shelters for men at the time of writing. None. And definitely no funding. or fund-raiding for that matter.

 

The 'shelter-domestic violence industry' is a full blown scam that creates criminals out of men by making victims of women. More than 80 % of all domestic violence allegations are false. More than 90% of sexual abuse allegations are false yet the mainstream public and the media are hooked on the idea of the opposite to the reality. And the people who run the shelters (whoever they are) are in a multi-million dollar industry scam. A boondoggle of massive proportions. When we talk of an 'industry' we are talking about 'employment centres' and numbered companies dispensing  millions of dollars to created jobs based on falsehoods. And using your money too. This industry is propped up by politicians who stake their careers on supporting the domestic violence myth and police chiefs who enforce the industry to secure department funding and security for their force while guaranteeing their pensions-if they toe the line. And all of them standing by while many hundreds of innocent men have their reputations and careers-and even lives ruined by the false allegations that generate the myth that drives the industry.

 

And this Minister Oda who once claimed that men and women should not be treated differently in this country is doing just that. Not only is she engaged in a game of policy opposites but she is raising money for one of these 'shelters' by attending a fund-raiser attended by the infamous Jan Reimer former NDP mayor of Edmonton who resents slide shows and PowerPoint demos that tell prospective donors that one of the highest groups of sexually deviant predators in Canada are 13 14 and 15 year old boys. Yes that rights. Your sons and nephews.

 

I urge you to stand up for your rights, for political common sense and for common decency equality and fairness and write directly to Minister Bev Oda at Oda.B@parl.gc.ca  Minister Rona Ambrose at Ambrose.R@parl.gc.ca Prime Minister Stephen Harper pm@pm.gc.ca and your own federal member of parliament. Tell them how you feel about this outrage and tell them that it is almost definite that support for the Conservative Government will suffer if the Ministers do the "Tea with Bev and Rona show" For myself I am telling them I am burning my party membership card on the 6th May if they attend. I most certainly advise that you tell them that no donations to the party coffers will come from your pocket. tell them you will give your money to REAL WOMEN instead.

 

Tell them what you think. They are only members of parliament-and they are supposed to serve you!

 

Woman who cried rape was the rapist

 

Commentaires du Syndicat des agents correctionnels du Canada

Allégations de harcèlement sexuel et agression sexuelle, on mentionne que très peu concerne des IPL masculins, mais on recommande tout de même d'exclure ce groupe! Cet argument semble sortir de nulle part et venir appuyer une position déjà prise à l'avance. On exclut les IPL masculins parce qu'ils n'ont rien fait!

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IPL MASCULINS

On remet en question leur professionnalisme.Sont victimes de discrimination du fait de leur sexe uniquement

Les IPL masculins et féminins peuvent comprendre et sont d'accord avec les arguments qui font qu'ils ne peuvent participer aux fouilles à nue, fouilles par palpation, usage de force, surveillance caméra, extraction de cellule, test d'urine, escorte sécuritaire seul, cependant ils sont frustrés des autres restrictions qu'on veut leur imposer à cause de leur sexe et des intentions qu'on leurs prêtes. Ils veulent s'acquitter de toutes leurs responsabilités de manière compétente et complète.
On les considère comme des harceleurs et des violeurs en puissance et cela peut importe ce qu'ils sont en réalité.
Je me demande qu'elle est la différence entre un IPL dans un pénitencier de femmes, et une agente de correction dans un pénitencier d'hommes?

Mai le mois des grosses couennes

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