La Gazette des gonzes

Content d'être un gars
Glad to be a guy

Séparons Féminisme et État
toutes Les organisations politiques devraient respecter les mêmes règles

Vendredi, le 13 juin 2008
Friday, June 13 2008

Hier

Demain

 

 

 

 

1942 - In The Philadelphia Inquirer (June 18), reporter William Murphy, Jr. wrote that on June 17, 'Undersecretary of State, Sumner Welles called for the early creation of an international organization....the setting up of a new world order on a permanent basis.'

 

Maudit beau casque

 

Bloc maladies mentales

 

Propagande androphobe du lobby des femmes violentes

Violence conjugale : Face cachée

 

Affiches sexistes: voici les preuves! Bravo à Madame Salerno, notre nouveau Calvin!

 

Père absent: la souffrance des filles

 

 

Deux phalanges côté poil sinon vous avez peut-être affaire à une vaginale

Recherche point G désespérément

 

Voilè que la Bazzo quitte le camp des fémicoincées; il était temps

Instinct de femme

 

Femme, tu ne seras point pétard!

 

Protester remanded - Rffj Press release

 

Place du père dans la construction de l'égalité

 

F4J: A Father Is For Life, Not Just Conception

 

Saprée Francine; Pinocchio est une vraie histoire mais ce n'est pas une histoire vraie

J'étais dans l'assistance au procès d'Andy contre Barbara Legault, Francine Descarries qui témoignait a affirmé que les derniers chiffres de statistique canada sur la violence conjugal daté de 2008 disent que 85% des femmes au Canada seront battu au cours de leur vie. Quelq'un peut me confirmer avoir vu cette statistique?
 
Joe.

 

"Men are 10 times more scared of marrying the wrong person than of never getting married at all.

traduction: le mariage avec une fémisexiste

 

Lettre ouverte
L'après-rupture
Ateliers pour les liens père-enfants, Inc.

10 juin 2008

La modification à la Chartre québécoise adoptée.
L'égalité homme/femme en préambule
 

Modification à la Charte québécoise pour inclure l'égalité entre les femmes et les hommes - LE CONSEIL DU STATUT DE LA FEMME SE REJOUIT DE L'ADOPTION A L'UNANIMITE DU PROJET DE LOI NO 63

QUÉBEC, le 10 juin /CNW Telbec/ - La présidente du Conseil du statut de la femme, Mme Christiane Pelchat, tient à souligner l'adoption par l'Assemblée nationale du projet de loi no 63 Loi modifiant la Charte des droits et libertés de la personne.

«Pour la première fois, le mot »femme« et l'expression »égalité entre les
femmes et les hommes« se retrouvent dans la Charte, réceptacle des valeurs chères aux Québécois et aux Québécoises. De plus, le préambule de la Charte reconnaîtra à partir d'aujourd'hui expressément l'égalité entre les femmes et les hommes comme valeur qui est un fondement de la justice, de la liberté et de la paix», a déclaré Mme Pelchat.

Il n'est jamais inutile d'entendre les élus proclamer les valeurs chères
à la société québécoise. Le législateur doit exprimer la volonté du peuple et c'est ce qu'il a fait, puisque l'égalité entre les femmes et les hommes est
une valeur fondamentale pour notre société. Il s'agit là d'un gain
extraordinaire non seulement pour les femmes, mais pour l'ensemble de la société.

Par ailleurs, la clause interprétative qui est dès maintenant ajoutée à
la Charte commandera que l'interprétation des tribunaux soit conforme au droit égal des femmes et des hommes de jouir des mêmes droits. Les tribunaux sont maintenant mieux armés pour arbitrer un conflit, notamment entre la liberté de religion et le droit à l'égalité entre les sexes puisqu'ils ont une indication claire de l'importance que le législateur accorde à l'égalité entre les femmes et les hommes.

Le Conseil du statut de la femme tient à féliciter la ministre de la
Culture, des Communications et de la Condition féminine pour le courage politique dont elle a fait preuve en résistant à la rectitude politique ambiante afin de mener ce projet de loi jusqu'à son adoption.

Rappelons que ce projet de loi faisait suite à l'avis du Conseil du
statut de la femme, Droit à l'égalité entre les femmes et les hommes et
liberté religieuse, rendu public en septembre dernier. Dans cet avis, le
Conseil demandait notamment au gouvernement d'inclure dans la Charte
québécoise une clause interprétative qui assurerait que l'égalité entre les
femmes et les hommes soit prise en compte dans l'interprétation des autres droits et libertés garantis, comme c'est le cas dans la Charte canadienne.


Et maintenant...

L'adoption de la clause d'égalité entre les hommes et les femmes fait maintenant partie intégrante de l'interprétation de la Charte, puisque présente dans son préambule.

Donc, dorénavant, les hommes pourront exiger:

Un Conseil du statut de l'homme

Un secrétariat à la condition masculine

130 maisons d'hébergement pour les hommes en difficulté

Des droits égaux d'accès à leurs enfants décidés par les tribunaux de la famille

Des pubs télévisuelles pour sensibiliser la population à la violence conjugale faite aux hommes 

Des pubs télévisuelles pour sensibiliser la population aux agressions sexuelles dont sont victimes les garçons

Que sur les conseils, commissions, organismes gouvernementaux, système de santé, les hommes aient la même représentativité que les femmes

Que des mesures concrètes soient prises en éducation pour que la diplomation à tous les niveaux soit égale en nombre pour les deux sexes

Que des programmes similaires à ceux de Chapeau les filles soient instaurés pour toutes les facultés universitaires où les hommes sont minoritaires

Qu'en éducation,  le nombre de professeurs masculins soit égal à celui des professeurs féminins, et ce à tous les niveaux scolaires

Que dans les CPE autant d'hommes que de femmes s'occupent des enfants

La mise en place d'une discrimination positive  pour tous les emplois traditionnellement féminins afin que la parité des sexes y devienne un fait

Que des programmes incitatifs soient mis en place pour amener la parité dans les emplois où les conditions de travail sont difficiles et souvent mortellement dangereuses

Le retrait immédiat de la politique d'intervention en matière de violence conjugale, politique qui oblige les policiers à écrouer le conjoint " le plus fort", puisqu'il s'agit d'une politique sexiste

Qu'en politique, le programme "À égalité pour décider" soit immédiatement retiré puisqu'il ne s'adresse qu'aux femmes

Que les subventions versées aux  organismes communautaires soient également réparties entre les groupes d'aide aux hommes et les groupes d'aide aux femmes

Et, en guise de conclusion, l'équipe de L'APRÈS-RUPTURE souhaite aux féministes professionnelles, la bienvenue dans le nouveau monde vraiment égalitaire à venir!

Jean-Claude Boucher
Président
avec l'équipe de
L'après-rupture
450-772-6812

Bye Bye 70 - 1

Bye Bye 70 - 2

Bye Bye 70 - 3

Bye Bye 70 - 4

 

Andy Srougi VS À bâbord! et Barbara Legault : le procès a lieu du 4 au 6 juin

Le procès dans l'affaire Andy Srougi versus À bâbord! et Barbara Legault aura lieu les 4, 5 et 6 juin 2008, salle 13.11, Cour du Québec, Palais de justice de Montréal, 1, rue Notre-Dame Est (métro Place d'Armes). Lire la suite

http://cybersolidaires.typepad.com/ameriques/2008/06/andy-srougi-vs.html

Cybersolidairement

Nicole Nepton
nnepton@cybersolidaires.org
http://www.cybersolidaires.org

 

Tom, a loving husband, was in trouble.

He had forgotten his wedding anniversary and his wife was really ticked off at him.

She told him, "Tomorrow morning, I expect to find a gift in the driveway that goes from 0 to 200 in under six seconds, AND IT BETTER BE THERE."

The next morning, Tom got up really early.

When his wife woke up a couple of hours later, she looked out the window, and there was a small gift-wrapped box sitting in the middle of the driveway.

Confused, the wife put on her robe, ran out to the driveway, and took the box into the house.

She opened it, and found a brand new bathroom scale.

Tom is not yet well enough to have visitors.

 

 

10823 - 97th Street
Fort St. John, BC
V1J 3S6

June 10 2008
Canada Safeway Ltd.
P.O. Box 864, Stn “M”
Calgary, AB
T2P 2J6

Attn: Advertising Department

Re:  "Shelter from the Storm" Campaign Poster Displayed in Local Safeway

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to express my deep concern over seeing one of the Canadian Women’s Foundation’s discriminatory “Shelter from the Storm” campaign posters at the Safeway located in Fort St. John, BC.  The poster in question, displayed at the Bank of Montreal in-store branch (for all customers to see as they exited your check-outs), depicts a woman with two young children sitting together at one end of a couch.  The caption reads “Help Her Out.  No one should have to live with abuse ever”.

I wonder if you were made aware of the true domestic violence situation in this country before you catered to the Canadian Women's Foundation (CWF) by allowing these posters to be displayed in your stores.  That truth being that men and women are victims of domestic violence at virtually the same rate of occurrence; six percent for men and seven percent for women.  Two consecutive studies by Statistics Canada (ref. 1, 2), spanning an eight year period over the past decade, have arrived at this conclusion.

For years, the Canadian public has been led to believe that domestic violence is primarily male aggressors and female victims.  This is because of the preference that our government has given to funding women's interest groups such as CWF and is not based on any credible domestic violence statistics.  Since coming out with their “Shelter from the Storm” campaign, CWF has been under much scrutiny from Fathers’ and Men’s Rights groups for their blatant discrimination against men.  You are contributing to this discrimination by displaying their hate-literature.

I would suggest that you should have thought further into the future before allowing such misleading propaganda to be displayed in your stores.  The day is coming when the Canadian Women's Foundation will be forced to retract their hate-campaign against men and admit that women are just as responsible for domestic violence.  When that day arrives, what will your plan be for handling the redirection in their campaign?  If you suddenly begin displaying truthful information which shows the dual-sided nature of domestic violence (with both men and women as potential abusers), you will be asked to explain why men were unfairly singled-out as the aggressors only a short while earlier.  If you choose to stop displaying their information all together, it will show that you were never really interested in reducing domestic violence - but, instead, merely bowing to the interests of a particular group for your own financial benefit.  Whichever of these two options you choose, it will be too late to salvage my loyalty towards your company for, in my opinion, your management has shown their true nature and how they really feel about their male customers.

For the past several years, I have been spending between $2000 and $2500 per year at the Safeway in Fort St. John, BC.  As a result of your allowing these posters to be displayed, I will be taking my business to your competition from now on, and will urge all others in the Men's and Fathers' Rights movement to do the same.

In closing, I would suggest that you read “Misandry is the Message” by Canadian columnist, Barbara Kay.  Her article is attached, with her permission, at the end of this letter.

Don Dymond (male victim of domestic violence)
don_dymond@telus.net
Fort St. John, BC

cc:       Better Business Bureau (Vancouver, BC)
            Canadian Human Rights Commission (Edmonton, AB)
            CTV Whistleblower (Toronto, ON)
            Barbara Kay (bkay@videotron.ca)
            Jeremy Swanson (Director, FathersCan)

References:
1       "Family Violence in Canada: A Statistical Profile 2005; study by Statistics Canada; 2005

2       "Family Violence in Canada: A Statistical Profile 2007; study by Statistics Canada; 2007

 

C'est pas moi qui le dit

"As long as a woman can look ten years younger than her own daughter, she is perfectly satisfied."

Oscar Wilde

 

Campaigner continues Harman protest

 

'I will not be moved', vows Fathers 4 Justice campaigner who is STILL on minister's roof

 

bbc news Harmen protest. Harmen interview

 

The Times: Harriet Harman abandons home after Fathers4Justice protest on roof
Two Fathers 4 Justice campaigners scaled the roof of Harriet Harman's house today forcing the Leader of the House of Commons and her husband to abandon the property.

Dressed in red and blue Superman costumes, Jolly Stanesby, 39, and Mark Harris, 49, both from South Devon, unfurled a banner reading ³A father is for life, not just conception² from the grey, slate tiles of the Deputy Labour Leader's semi-detached property in Dulwich, South London

The duo then relaxed on the gables in the sun, waving to neighbours and the gathering crowds in what is the latest of a series of high-profile fathers' rights protests by the group since it formed in 2002.

Ms Harman had remained oblivious to the "superheroes" on her roof until local children started waving up at them. However at 2.30pm Ms Harman emerged with her husband to declare they were leaving, to spare the public purse.

³We are going to move out and stay somewhere else. I don¹t think it¹s fair for police resources to be tied up outside my house by this demonstration and it¹s not fair on the neighbours,² she said.

"We came in through the side gate at 8.15 this morning," said Mr Harris, a driving instructor, speaking to The Times by mobile phone from the roof. "We just walked in. Then we climbed up the back extension onto the flat roof from where we could get to the very top. My own house is more secure than this".

He said he had asked police acting as mediators to present Ms Harman with a copy of his book, Family Court Hell, which details his decade-long struggle to gain access to his three daughters, including a prison sentences for waving to them across a supermarket car park.

"We have asked her to read it and then we're going to ask her some questions on it," he said. "If she can answer them all correctly, then we will come down."

Championing the reform of Britain's family law system and equal contact and parenting rights for separated parents, Fathers 4 Justice members have become infamous for breaching public buildings and scaling them dressed as larger-than-life comic book characters.

Ms Harman's suburban red-brick home is a far cry from the Royal Courts of Justice or Buckingham Palace, which Fathers 4 Justice members scaled in 2003 and 2004. But the group insisted Ms Harman was an obvious target.

³Harriet Harman is part of a Government that has presided over the chaos of family law for ten years,² said Darryl Westell, a 26-year-old member who arrived to cheer on his friends. ³She and her party have advocated the total removal of fathers' rights.²

Mr Westell, who spent ³£20,000 and a lot of heartache² fighting for the right to see his five-year-old son after he separated from the boy's mother, said he was supposed to be on Ms Harman's roof himself, but his alarm had failed to go off that morning.

"I'm probably lucky," he admitted. "They will stay up there for as long as it takes. These guys are determined."

In January 2004, Mr Stanesby, a registered child minder and father-of-one, sat on top of Tamar Bridge in Plymouth for seven days. Ms Harman's roof, in comparison, was quite luxurious, he said.

"It's beautiful up here. It's hot and sunny and we've got great views of London."

"We've got plenty of food and water and a couple of books ­ I'm reading Martin Luther King's autobiography.

"And if we need the loo, we're hoping Harriet might let us use hers."

 

Protester stays on minister's roof

A Fathers 4 Justice campaigner was maintaining his vigil on Monday on the roof of deputy Labour leader Harriet Harman's home in an "early Father's Day strike" against the Government.

Jolly Stanesby scrambled onto the roof of the Cabinet Minister's house in Herne Hill, south London, on Sunday morning, along with another activist, Mark Harris, who later climbed down.

Dressed as superheroes, the pair, both from south Devon-unfurled a banner reading "A father is for life, not just conception".
The group said they wanted to highlight the fact that fathers were being made redundant, emotionally in the courts and now biologically in the new Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill.

Ms Harman, the Minister for Women and Equality, remained inside on Sunday for over seven hours but eventually emerged to announce she was leaving until the protest was over.

She said: "We are going to move out and stay somewhere else. I don't think it's fair for police resources to be tied up outside my house by this demonstration."

During their protest Mr Harris and Mr Stanesby demanded a meeting with the Cabinet Minister, claiming she had refused to see them.

But Ms Harman denied this and said they could have attended her regular Friday constituency surgery at Southwark Town Hall two days earlier.

She said: "They have said this is because they want a meeting but I checked with my constituency office and they haven't requested a meeting. I checked with my ministerial office and they haven't requested a meeting there."

Fathers 4 Justice founder Matt O'Connor responded by saying he had asked Ms Harman for "urgent talks" over a year ago through his local MP in Winchester, Lib-Dem Mark Oaten. He said: "She wrote back and refused, as did other Ministers, such as Peter Hain."

 

 

Man held over Harman roof protest
(BBC News)

 

 

Sexism Sells
But We're Not Buying It

 

bbc news footage of Harmen rooftop protest

 

Sky news coverage of Harmen rooftop protest

 

bbc news Harmen protest. Harmen interview

 

Harmen protest. Matt O'Connor interview.

 

From: "Matthew O'Connor"

Fathers 4 Justice today hailed the rooftop protest at Minister Harriet Harman's house as one of it's most successful media events ever, with blanket coverage on BBC News, Sky, Radio including BBC Radio 5 Live, Talk Sport and in most national newspapers this morning including great features and photos in the Daily Mail and the Sun.

F4J Founder Matt O¹Connor this morning said the group would act to defend fatherhood in the wake of a vicious onslaught from the government and appealed to everyone to stand up for fathers in Bristol this Friday 13th June.

Said O'Connor, "I salute Mark Harris and Jolly Stanesby for their remarkable efforts as well as everyone else at team F4J who played an integral role in the smooth running of this operation. Yet again, despite what our detractors say, not only is justice with us, but we have demonstrated that we can reach the headlines in a way no other group, organisation or copycat group can do.

F4J continue to punches way above its weight in terms of coverage. We must now focus our efforts on ensuring that Fridays event where both Mark and Jolly will be inn attendance goes smoothly. For the rest of the country who wants to know what happens next, watch this space."

Finally, can I welcome Richard Castle back into the fold after a traumatic few weeks and thank him for all his work yesterday."

Matt O¹Connor
Founder, Fathers 4 Justice

F4J Roof Protestor Jolly Stanesby Interview BBC News
F4J Founder Matt O¹Connor Interview BBC News
Harriet Harman Interview
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=j8lxZAfbsuc&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=j8lxZAfbsuc
F4J Spokesman Darryl Westell on Sky News
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EPkjjAHh_hg
More BBC Coverage & Interview with F4J Spokesman Darryl Westell
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jdWLUeJ1_0k&feature=related
General BBC News Coverage Live from the scene
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=N7D62fGN0Dc
More BBC News Coverage
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jdWLUeJ1_0k


Protester stays on minister's roof

A Fathers 4 Justice campaigner was maintaining his vigil on Monday on the roof of deputy Labour leader Harriet Harman's home in an "early Father's Day strike" against the Government.

Jolly Stanesby scrambled onto the roof of the Cabinet Minister's house in Herne Hill, south London, on Sunday morning, along with another activist, Mark Harris, who later climbed down.

Dressed as superheroes, the pair, both from south Devon-unfurled a banner reading "A father is for life, not just conception". The group said they wanted to highlight the fact that fathers were being made redundant, emotionally in the courts and now biologically in the new Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill.

Ms Harman, the Minister for Women and Equality, remained inside on Sunday for over seven hours but eventually emerged to announce she was leaving until the protest was over.

She said: "We are going to move out and stay somewhere else. I don't think it's fair for police resources to be tied up outside my house by this demonstration."

During their protest Mr Harris and Mr Stanesby demanded a meeting with the Cabinet Minister, claiming she had refused to see them.

But Ms Harman denied this and said they could have attended her regular Friday constituency surgery at Southwark Town Hall two days earlier.

She said: "They have said this is because they want a meeting but I checked with my constituency office and they haven't requested a meeting. I checked with my ministerial office and they haven't requested a meeting there."

Fathers 4 Justice founder Matt O'Connor responded by saying he had asked Ms Harman for "urgent talks" over a year ago through his local MP in Winchester, Lib-Dem Mark Oaten. He said: "She wrote back and refused, as did other Ministers, such as Peter Hain."

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=j8lxZAfbsuc&feature=related
 

The Times: Harriet Harman abandons home after Fathers4Justice protest on roof
Two Fathers 4 Justice campaigners scaled the roof of Harriet Harman's house today forcing the Leader of the House of Commons and her husband to abandon the property.

Dressed in red and blue Superman costumes, Jolly Stanesby, 39, and Mark Harris, 49, both from South Devon, unfurled a banner reading ³A father is for life, not just conception² from the grey, slate tiles of the Deputy Labour Leader's semi-detached property in Dulwich, South London

The duo then relaxed on the gables in the sun, waving to neighbours and the gathering crowds in what is the latest of a series of high-profile fathers' rights protests by the group since it formed in 2002.

Ms Harman had remained oblivious to the "superheroes" on her roof until local children started waving up at them. However at 2.30pm Ms Harman emerged with her husband to declare they were leaving, to spare the public purse.

³We are going to move out and stay somewhere else. I don¹t think it¹s fair for police resources to be tied up outside my house by this demonstration and it¹s not fair on the neighbours,² she said.

"We came in through the side gate at 8.15 this morning," said Mr Harris, a driving instructor, speaking to The Times by mobile phone from the roof. "We just walked in. Then we climbed up the back extension onto the flat roof from where we could get to the very top. My own house is more secure than this".

He said he had asked police acting as mediators to present Ms Harman with a copy of his book, Family Court Hell, which details his decade-long struggle to gain access to his three daughters, including a prison sentences for waving to them across a supermarket car park.

"We have asked her to read it and then we're going to ask her some questions on it," he said. "If she can answer them all correctly, then we will come down."

Championing the reform of Britain's family law system and equal contact and parenting rights for separated parents, Fathers 4 Justice members have become infamous for breaching public buildings and scaling them dressed as larger-than-life comic book characters.

Ms Harman's suburban red-brick home is a far cry from the Royal Courts of Justice or Buckingham Palace, which Fathers 4 Justice members scaled in 2003 and 2004. But the group insisted Ms Harman was an obvious target.

³Harriet Harman is part of a Government that has presided over the chaos of family law for ten years,² said Darryl Westell, a 26-year-old member who arrived to cheer on his friends. ³She and her party have advocated the total removal of fathers' rights.²

Mr Westell, who spent ³£20,000 and a lot of heartache² fighting for the right to see his five-year-old son after he separated from the boy's mother, said he was supposed to be on Ms Harman's roof himself, but his alarm had failed to go off that morning.

"I'm probably lucky," he admitted. "They will stay up there for as long as it takes. These guys are determined."

In January 2004, Mr Stanesby, a registered child minder and father-of-one, sat on top of Tamar Bridge in Plymouth for seven days. Ms Harman's roof, in comparison, was quite luxurious, he said.

"It's beautiful up here. It's hot and sunny and we've got great views of London."

"We've got plenty of food and water and a couple of books ­ I'm reading Martin Luther King's autobiography.

"And if we need the loo, we're hoping Harriet might let us use hers."

 


The Daily Mail - Harman hounded out: Rooftop protest by fathers' rights pair drives minister from her home

Harriet Harman was forced from her family home last night after two fathers'
rights campaigners dressed as comic book superheroes climbed on to her roof and refused to leave. The deputy leader of the Labour Party and Minister for Women refused to meet the pair. Six hours later, she temporarily moved out of her South London address.

Banner protest:  'A father is for life - not just conception'

Miss Harman, 58, said it was not fair to waste police time or disturb her neighbours so she was going to stay elsewhere.
Last night police began a security review and will want to know why the Fathers 4 Justice campaigners were able to scale the walls of Miss Harman's home so easily.

The men claimed they had simply entered through an unlocked gate and propped a ladder up against the wall of the three-storey house.
Miss Harman was targeted because, in her previous Whitehall job as Solicitor General, campaigners say she did not do enough to open up access to the family courts.

It was also claimed that she had hinted at support for the aims of Fathers 4 Justice, but had done nothing. The drama started at about 8.15am. Once the two Fathers 4 Justice protesters were on the roof they unfurled a banner reading 'A Father is for life, not just conception'.

The pair from Devon were Mark Harris, dressed as 'Cash Gordon', and Jolly Stanesby in a Superman outfit but describing himself as 'Captain Conception'.

Mr Harris, speaking to the Daily Mail by mobile phone from the roof, insisted the stunt was a peaceful protest, but said it raised questions about Miss Harman's security arrangements.

'All we did was push open the gate, which wasn't even locked, put a ladder up and climbed up,' he said.
'In this time of heightened terror alerts I can't believe Harriet Harman has such lax security.'

A spokesman for the militant group  -  whose previous stunts including throwing flour at Tony Blair in the House of Commons and scaling Buckingham Palace  -  said yesterday's demonstration was intended as an 'early Father's Day strike' against the Government over fathers' access to their children.

With no end to the stand-off in sight, Miss Harman emerged from the home she shares with husband, Jack Dromey, treasurer of the Labour Party, to condemn the protest.

The mother-of-three said that nobody from Fathers 4 Justice had tried to contact her to ask for a meeting and nobody from the group had come to her constituency surgeries either.

Fathers 4 Justice spokesman Darryl Westell challenged Miss Harman's claims.

'It's rubbish,' he said. 'She has been approached through Matt O'Connor, the founder, and Mark Oaten, the MP for Winchester. She refused.'

Mr Harris later came down from the roof but Mr Stanesby pledged to remain 'as long as possible'.

Last night security expert Dai Davies, a former head of the Met's Royalty Protection Squad, said: 'It is ironic that at a time when the Government is trying to extend the detention period for terrorist suspects  -  supposedly because 2,000 individuals are plotting against us  -  that security should be so lax at the home of the deputy leader of the Labour Party.

 

Father's rooftop protest goes on

 

From Steve Bayliss-F4J Wales
"Guys and girls ­ we need people supporting Jolly on the ground at Harmans house and calling Walworth Police Station where Mark has been held for 24 hours now!"
Also get writing in to the BBC.

 
To the BBC
 
F4J on Harman's Roof? You should be proud of them. They are the modern day British heroes. You have needed people like this for some time. Real men and Dads with truth and justice on their side-fighting for many. The F4J idea is a brilliant concept and mission, for a very important cause and for fathers around the world. Trust the British for leading the way for us all again. The men on the roof are to Fathers activists everywhere men of pure courage and we regard them in terms of almost 'Churchillian Hero'status . They are to us the 21st century's male suffragettes and everything good and decent and just that was done by those women heroes way back then is being done today by those heroes on the roof.
 
The average "Joe" in the street can't even begin to understand it. Until he is in it. Listen to the men in tights. Listen to Matt O'Connor. They know that of which they speak and they know it well. And more again. In Canada we call the 'thing' that F4J is fighting,  "The Horror". There is simply no other word for it. Indeed like me most people do not even know there IS such a thing as 'family law'-oxymoronic nightmare that it is. Its too complex for them to understand or draw adequate balanced conclusions by it. So they judge it all in simplistic terms by calling the acton "silly" and a 'waste of time'. Those men who mock and speak derisively of the F4J men find out the reality only once they see themselves their brothers, cousins, fathers and friends being dragged though the worst possible place on earth. One of my activist colleagues perhaps said it best.....

"The reason for Family Law was to "help" families get over the end of a relationship, and to ensure the children are properly cared for. What has happened is the exact opposite. The average person does not believe that there is a serious problem with Family law.
They only realize how bad it is once they get caught in its claws".
A Canadian Activist
 
Do you imagine for a second we reacted with dismay when your British heroes threw their purple-flour in condoms on the House or climbed on to the palace? Not a chance on earth. We cheered lustily for days. Some of us burst into tears as did this writer. It was for us Dads around the world a virtual 'shot heard around the world' in terms of Fathers Rights activism. if I could be with my brothers on the roof right now I would be. I would be proud and honoured to be there.

Regards

Jeremy Swanson
Fathers and Men's Rights Activist
Ottawa
Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Equality-4-Fathers-International@googlegroups.com
On Behalf Of Steve Bayliss
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 3:27 PM
To: F4J Wales-Cymru
Subject: [E4F_International nr.8258] UK - JOLLY STILL ON ROOF - SEND YOUR VIEWS

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7443284.stm

Guys and girls ­ we need people supporting Jolly on the ground at Harmans house and calling Walworth Police Station where Mark has been held for 24 hours now!!!

Also get writing in to the BBC.

Walworth Police Station
323 Borough High Street,
Borough: Southwark
SE1 1JR View Map (launches a new window)
Telephone: 020 7378 1212

2nd Telephone: Textphone Number for Hard of Hearing: 020 7232 6013

Additional Information
Service Availability: Open 24 hours a day

Transport: Trains: Elephant and Castle, Borough ; Bus route(s): 12, 35, 40, 45, 68, 148, 168, 171, 468

 

Fuel prices soar in China

Hier

Demain